In this conversation, we discusses various aspects of teaching, including the challenges faced in the classroom, innovative approaches to composting and recycling in schools, and the exciting project of gamifying education through game design. The conversation highlights the importance of student engagement and ownership in environmental initiatives and the creative processes involved in learning as well as the importance of quality work in education and the role of feedback in student growth. They share the story of the Staff Infections, a band formed by teachers, and their journey in creating a sense of community through music and merchandising.