In this engaging conversation, Ben Hoff and his co-host explore the dynamics of starting a podcast, the challenges of conversation flow, and the complexities of educational topics such as competency-based education, radical autonomy, public showcases, and the role of deadlines. They also delve into the implications of AI in education, discussing both its potential benefits and challenges. In this conversation, Ben Hoff and his co-host delve into various themes surrounding education, including the importance of hope in educational narratives, the role of AI in enhancing podcasting, and the complexities of defining authenticity in educational projects. They explore project management strategies, the significance of design briefs, and the collective effort required in project-based learning.